Originally posted by GT Thambirajah: Why are you laughing at my short...ehh tallcomings XD I got into many compact and/or sports cars (i.e. Lotus Elise, Cayman S) with no problems (getting out of the Elise was a real pain tho (^.^)
Point is, you wouldn't want to limit your customer base. Because although more weight -> less fuel economy (or efficiency, a better term in context) obese people would want to have an economical ride, too. (of course Im exaggerating here a bit)
I think you can make this design fit this criteria with a little ingenuity.
I was just jealous of your height Thanks for the feedback tho. BTW, are you a student or a designer?
Originally posted by AMH: Cool! One of my portfolio project was a small Bell helicopter that detaches it's cockpit into a 3- wheeled all-terrain supermini for two. A stretch I know, but the overall look is similar to the 2nd rendering. Although yours a lil' better (for now)
sounds like an awesome project. i'd love to see it.
hey, are you starting this fall? will you be attending the informal meeting they are holding for recently admitted students?
yeah, this fall. Im coming saturday at 9am. emailed for reservation for two but no reply yet. maybe I should call? coming also this thurs night for toyota lecture series...I want to see what that is all about.
Originally posted by AMH: Cool! One of my portfolio project was a small Bell helicopter that detaches it's cockpit into a 3- wheeled all-terrain supermini for two. A stretch I know, but the overall look is similar to the 2nd rendering. Although yours a lil' better (for now)
I'll see you on Saturday then.
sounds like an awesome project. i'd love to see it.
hey, are you starting this fall? will you be attending the informal meeting they are holding for recently admitted students?
yeah, this fall. Im coming saturday at 9am. emailed for reservation for two but no reply yet. maybe I should call? coming also this thurs night for toyota lecture series...I want to see what that is all about.
Originally posted by GT Thambirajah: Im 6'3" I and I think I can never have the pleasure driving your concept I think it should be a little more roomy...i feel causterphobic (sp?) just looking at it...
And I love the idea, but I don't think its too practical. It's like the 1G iPod...it suggest people to download illegally (before they had iTunes) here, lane splitting is illegal in many places for a bike, let alone your concept, and so it kills part of the ideation. Just something to think about. ( I wouldn't want someone just barely missing my side mirror in traffic anyway ^.^)
Very neat ideation and execution nonetheless
I have a 1GB ipod shuffle. It still works I think this supermini concept is going to the european market. The Dutch and Italians? For the Japanese, I think a touge/drifting event using this thing RWD-version would be awesome! no joke.
isn't it? that's why its so great for fun's sake. It worth at least 4.5 stars in a youtube video if the event really exist! I can picture it w/ cute body kits and ridiculously negative camber and articulated suspension for the rear wheels (which is computer controlled to create counterbalance to prevent the car from toppling over entirely!) but yeah, hopefully I get to meet you this weekend
Originally posted by AMdesign: hahahahaha, a drifting event? it would tip over at the first corner.
this concept may be efficienct, but stability does not appear to be its strong point.
AMDesign, if you are only relying on what is conventional to judge a design, think again. To change existing paradigm or to find new resign solution, you really have to think outside the box.
Yes, it may look unstable due to its height and narrow profile, but it's excusable because it is an electric vehicle. Its batteries are placed strategically to keep all the vehicle weight downward, making it extremely stable. I looked into Communter Vehicles' Tango project, which has served as the reference for my project as well. Here's an exerpt from a Tango review:
Our car is 39 inches wide, making it the narrowest car in the world, yet it has stability akin to a Porsche 911,” said Woodbury, who raced 911s for car dealership Beverly Hills Porsche Audi, where he once worked. The slender T600 doesn't look stable, but the weight of up to 25 batteries used to power two electric motors sitting four inches off the ground all but cement the tires to the road. (http://www.forbesautos.com/news/features/2006/tango_t600.html)
See, the reason why this concept is electric is because of its unique dimension and weight distribution that comes as a result.
Would this concept be exciting to drive? Yeah, with performance that compares to Tango's 0-60 in 4 flat and safety feature that includes roll-cage structure (also featured in appearance deceiving Tango T600)that protects drivers in crashes up to 200mph.
Originally posted by AMdesign: hahahahaha, a drifting event? it would tip over at the first corner.
this concept may be efficienct, but stability does not appear to be its strong point.
AMDesign, if you are only relying on what is conventional to judge a design, think again. To change existing paradigm or to find new resign solution, you really have to think outside the box.
Yes, it may look unstable due to its height and narrow profile, but it's excusable because it is an electric vehicle. Its batteries are placed strategically to keep all the vehicle weight downward, making it extremely stable. I looked into Communter Vehicles' Tango project, which has served as the reference for my project as well. Here's an exerpt from a Tango review:
Our car is 39 inches wide, making it the narrowest car in the world, yet it has stability akin to a Porsche 911,” said Woodbury, who raced 911s for car dealership Beverly Hills Porsche Audi, where he once worked. The slender T600 doesn't look stable, but the weight of up to 25 batteries used to power two electric motors sitting four inches off the ground all but cement the tires to the road. (http://www.forbesautos.com/news/features/2006/tango_t600.html)
See, the reason why this concept is electric is because of its unique dimension and weight distribution that comes as a result.
Would this concept be exciting to drive? Yeah, with performance that compares to Tango's 0-60 in 4 flat and safety feature that includes roll-cage structure (also featured in appearance deceiving Tango T600)that protects drivers in crashes up to 200mph.
ok, well since you asked for it... the person i replied to spoke for use in a "drifting event". judging by your response i can tell you know little of what is involved in drifting. i used to be on a competitive circuit for 2 years, so i know what a car built for this purpose needs. the things you mentioned are none of those. my reply was strictly in reference to this car's ability to compete in that sort of catagory of racing. yes, is may hold itself to the ground, but that is opposite of what drifting involves. it demands cars that can break traction in corners (and straights) while maintaining a stable balance throughout. using weight to hold the car down would immediately cause proplems(for this purpose. ive seen skylines look like they're going to tip over at high speed drifting, and you insinuate that this concept would not purely because of the weight. you're correct, it would not tip over, because in fact, it would not be able to drift in the first place. not that this is a bad thing by any means, but it is not the purpose of the vehicle.
on a second note, (and i've noticed this with other posts of yours) you are very ready to come back at commentors with aspects of your design that are in NO way represented in you drawing, when they're only going off of what they see. (just as i was) a prof. once told me that what you present as your design should speak for itself, whether you're there to talk about it or not. the viewers should be able to understand all aspects of what you're designing. so you say you have batteries weighting down the car, and you say the dimensions to weight distribution also helps this. well in your images you have not indicated either. im not saying drawing in battery packs, but a description box, callouts, cutaway view are all things that will help translate your purpose better. even just dimensioning and showing how the weight is distrubted accross the bottom would help. if these are points which you want to stress in your design, then why wouldn't you show, or at least explain them some how?
my comments were not to downplay your work. it seems to be a very interesting concept. but you, as a designer, need to show/explain the important aspects of your design. and certainly with this concept, the stability is a very important aspect.
Thanks for the feedback tho. BTW, are you a student or a designer?
