The 'Southern Cross' represents Australia, the '心' character represents the human heart and GOY's mission to positively impact humanity and the world. The 'Cross' represents Christ. Of course, green and gold represents the national colours of Australia.
this whole idea of making a company for a broad demographic is fun, HOWEVER, creating a company that is religion enthused is just about the dumbest/most horrible idea i've ever heard. in my life.
has it not occured to you that while you say your goal is to hit many demographics you are IMMEDIATELY alienating a huge portion of people just by bringing religion into it? You're talking about the whole "chinese culture" thing, which is fine, but how is using a christ-mobile to get to a culture made up of an array or eastern religions (buddhism being the most popular) going to work? Do you think a muslim will buy your car? What about a jew? why would you ever want to bring such a touchy subject as religion into a company that's trying to sell a product all over the world. humans have fought wars since the beginning of time over religious dissagreance. i don't think they will hesitate to not buy a car that attatches itself to a religion they don't agree with.
what you've done is taken an idea that never should have made it past a board meeting and made a company out of it.
you're planning to create a car with a huge cross on the front of it... and not just that, but publicizing that it's for christ. that would be like Audi stamping the christian fish nonsense on the back bumper of every car that rolled out of their factories. Do you think an A6 would sell for 45K if every buyer knew they had to advertise a religion to own the car? of course not. they'd buy a bmw, mercedes or any number of other cars that would fill that gap. I can see that exact senario with you. Think of any competitors you might have... then go and buy some stock in them because they'll be taking all of your sales.
rant over. i can't believe people.
PS. design-wise, i think your stuff is interesting. a strong down-road graphic, and seemingly good proportions. some models bettern than others. its just your company statements that i can't get over. i would adopt a new strategy if you want to sell cars. or move to the south here in America. haha
fun fact: only 1 out of 10 start-up companies make it past the first year. good luck.
We are proud of our biblical heritage. But we are in no way religious in the way you described. Our goal is to make great cars, and do our best to make this world a better place. That is the reason for GOY's existence. Religion is not our business. Automotive and humanity IS. But we are not ashamed to tell the world where we stand as a corporate body.
To give you an illustration of what I mean: The prime minister of Australia Kevin Rudd, before the election, declared his faith openly and addressed the church on a formal level. Guess who voted for him? Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, atheists... in short, the majority of our nation. And he attended his home church with his family after his appointment as PM, flanked by the press left and right. He showed all Australia that he is who he is, and is not ashamed to declare where he stands. We are proud of our Prime Minister, and give him credit for his integrity and honesty.
In the same way, GOY will always be true to its vision and mission statement. Our responsibility is to do the right thing, and be the best in class where performance vehicles are concerned.
Religious debates are none of our concern.
Hope this gives you better understanding.
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fun fact: only 1 out of 10 start-up companies make it past the first year. good luck.
GOY has been operating since 2006. That makes us 1 out of 10.
Originally posted by David Goy: We are proud of our biblical heritage. But we are in no way religious in the way you described. Our goal is to make great cars, and do our best to make this world a better place. That is the reason for GOY's existence. Religion is not our business. Automotive and humanity IS. But we are not ashamed to tell the world where we stand as a corporate body.
To give you an illustration of what I mean: The prime minister of Australia Kevin R
udd, before the election, declared his faith openly and addressed the church on a formal level. Guess who voted for him? Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, atheists... in short, the majority of our nation. And he attended his home church with his family after his appointment as PM, flanked by the press left and right. He showed all Australia that he is who he is, and is not ashamed to declare where he stands. We are proud of our Prime Minister, and give him credit for his integrity and honesty.
In the same way, GOY will always be true to its vision and mission statement. Our responsibility is to do the right thing, and be the best in class where performance vehicles are concerned.
Religious debates are none of our concern.
Hope this gives you better understanding.
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fun fact: only 1 out of 10 start-up companies make it past the first year. good luck.
GOY has been operating since 2006. That makes us 1 out of 10.
there is a huge difference between a politician and a product. I completely understand what your goals are as a company... i was just stating how tying religion in can be bad. of course a politician has to do that. they state their religious beliefs all over the world, because voters feel they NEED to know that stuff... whether it be to get a read of that person's character or background or whatever. but with a car, that's completely unnecessary. your bringing in an element that, i believe, can only do harm to business.
also, being that you're one of the successful "1 out of 10", how many cars do you have on the roads now? are you really a car company if you've never produced/sold anything?
anyway, i'm just going to stick to design now on this thread, SO... like i said. i think your designs are pretty interesting. certainly a good idea to continue forward with the economic friendly car theme.
also, being that you're one of the successful "1 out of 10", how many cars do you have on the roads now? are you really a car company if you've never produced/sold anything?
Friend, we're not starting a hot dog stall on the street. We're talking about a seriously huge project. How much planning and how long do you think it takes to engineer a car and pass all the safety legislations in order to put it on the road? You obviously have no clue about the auto industry if you think you can put a car on the road in one year. Even Toyota (voted the best manufacturer), took two years to put a model in the market. And even then it was built upon a previous model. Hope that gives you a bit of enlightening
hahaha. you're a funny guy. i believe the exchange was about a start up company lasting more than a year. 1 out of 10 succeeding is the statistic. you said, and rightfully so, that your company has been in operation since 2006. well done. i asked whether a company can be called successful if they haven't produced/sold anything yet. you see, you're talking about me like im an idiot because you believe that i think you should have a car on the road already. You are wrong. my statement has nothing to do with a timeline. i don't car if it takes you 15 years to sell something. the question is, can you call yourself a successful company if you've never sold/produced anything. and i only asked because you apparently counted yourself as one of the seccessful start up companies, but i only see that you have renderings and models to show for your work. again, i understand this, because that's the process. but my point is, maybe you shouldn't be so closed to criticism not only about your designs but about your company itself, considering it has yet to establish itself as a car manufacturer. one really doesn't know whether your idea will sell or not. i do hope it does because i would never wish ill on anyone, but my comments were only to maybe help you analyze what you could be potentially selling on the car market, and the pros/cons of that product.
either way, PLEASE think about what you're writing in the future, and read what the person has said. Also, don't assume what i do or do not know about the auto industry based on miss-interpreted comments on your part. You don't know me, so don't start trying to flame me from your mighty position. For all you know i could be a professional designer working for any company. don't think there aren't any on these forums. However i am a design student at a reputable school, and yes, i know it takes quite some time to engineer and get a car ready for production, and yes im still learning the process, but i do know design. so chill. im just critiqing what you presented on this site. best wishes
I still this this project is waaaaaay to conservative and realistic. A range of cars built somehow by amateurs that match and exceed the performance characterstics of blue chip billion-dollar competition designed around a grill based on the Christian cross, a website written by children and a company that gives 10% of its profits away to the Church is aomething we've seen a million gajillion times before. Its tried and tested. Its mundane.
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Guys (especially JD + Coke and AMDesign), I think some of the discussion in this thread is way out of relevance and has now become of very little value to anybody.
Our intention of posting this topic in the first place is to ask for opinions solely on our designs. We wanted objective design feedback . We did not ask for your religious views or your prejudiced opinions against any faiths. We didn't even ask for your advice on running the business; we already have some of the best people on board who to do that.
Now please excuse us... we don't have time for such small talk. And just an advice: don't be like one of those people in a football stadium swearing and shouting at the players who are ACTUALLY playing on the field. If you think you can do things better, by all means get off your butt and do it.
