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Originally posted by David Goy:
... I think some of the discussion in this thread is way out of relevance and has now become of very little value to anybody.
Our intention of posting this topic in the first place is to ask for opinions solely on our designs...
Now please excuse us... we don't have time for such small talk. ... If you think you can do things better, by all means get off your butt and do it.
Greetings Goy people.
With good intent and on behalf of some, I'd like to propose an APOLOGY IF any of our opinions offended you big time. I have visited Australia, lived in Liverpool, near Sidney for 8 mths. However I spent the most of my living time in the Unites States and Indonesia. If I remember correctly, Australia's demographic is predominantly White Christian/Catholic. And yes, you are very hospitable, clean, and well-meaning kind of people. I very much like Australians and their lifestyle.
However, THE Automotive industry does NOT revolve Australia and its demographic only. Its consumer reaches beyond the limitations of who is "for humanity" and who "is not so". Do you know? that Toyota's T-100 truck is favorited by religious extremist/terrorists around the world due to its reliability? and also consider VW/Audi's very very Catholic-Bavarian background...and their highest market priority is communist China! in ALL HONESTY, most companies are interested only in these things; profit, shares and company sustainability. How do you expect NOT to offend Middle Eastern market for example...by bearing a cross instead a crescent moon on your emblem? How do you think Mercedes sold so many products into the middle east? their emblem is neither!
I have told you about the emblem issue. And this is strictly DESIGN; its too much of an Alfa Romeo! Your product can't compete globally this way. Maybe within a small Australian market, exclusively, very maybe if Ford won't come up w/ anything better and cheaper. Whatever happened to the OTHER challenges? Gas prices is nearing $125 per barrel. Staple food price rose 100% just now. AND YOU wanted to build a "not a hotdog stand" OEM car manufacturer making rally cars and high performance gas-guzzling sedans??? and beat global warming WHILE dismissing a design critique session in the most important car design forum in the industry?
THIS is your wake up call: Ken Okuyama's (Hotdog-Stand) Newton Design Lab is coming up with a small robot, some pieces of furniture, and a go-kart looking thing. Not that close to a C-class car. And he's the guy who designed Honda/Acura NSX AND THE Ferrari Enzo. Used to be Art Center's Trans. Design Dept. Chairman. His new "car", is going to be presented in Auto Shows, starting from Geneva all the way to Los Angeles.
If I am right, you are aiming to be bigger than this guy by going full-production since you're not a "hotdog stand".
Heed this sermon guys, PRIDE BEFORE FALL. I know you've heard this before.
Stay very close to this forum, swallow your pride and learn. If you can't even learn from the designer's inputs from this website, then you're not even close to the real deal.
We're not that bad. But stroking you isn't going to help you either.
Thank you and good luck to you guys at Goy. Sincerely, myself.