I hate to burst anyone's bubble but there are some struggling Art Center grads (Transportation majors) here in Vancouver. They've been so desperate to the point where they're at my previous local university posting their tutorial services in industrial design drawing/rendering on the student bulletin boards. It just shows you that it's a tough industry and it really makes you wonder if it's worth it to be in that much debt just to have that school under your CV.
they must suck.. or have not had the drive that the successful grads do.. how could one attend/graduate from art center and only be able to give tutorials to kids at design schools...
They're actually just as good as the designers you'd expect from Art Center. It's just that the sector is saturated and there's barely any jobs for anyone.
i don't think this is a problem that is unique to art center alone. look at other major art schools, Otis College, Rhode Island, Pratt, SVA, Art Institute of Chicago--among these schools, art center is actually the cheapest. this is frightening because most of these schools are known for their fine arts program--and i can't fathom what it'll be like for graduates from these schools to make living from painting or sculpting. i really hope that art schools are not raising their tuition to match their competitors' tuition (rather than keeping up with average tuition rate from colleges across the country) because art education has now become more expensive than investment worthy majors such as engineering or accounting degrees.
Hey David thanks for that input(I'm too lazy too look up those schools websites to check on their tuition rates). That's ridiculous tho if they're really that expensive.
What's worse is Art Centers curriculum has been compared to Stanford's.. and you obviously have to be pretty damn good to get accepted to ACCD******.. yet Stanford gives its students a free ride if their family earns under 100k a year and even free housing if its under 75k a year.
ART CENTER NEEDS THIS NOW.
As for jobs.. there's so many disgusting designs being put into production I really don't see it being difficult to 'move in' on these jobs ;P
AND ACCD**** of all the trans schools has a lot of ins to the entertainment industry from what I understand(far more then schools over seas or CCS) and also from what i understand the entertainment industry can even pay betteR...
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i don't think it would be fair to compare art center to national universities like stanford. it seems like elite schools such as stanford is following steps harvard has made recently with its radical scholarship program. i really hope this trend will also set a foot into art/design schools but the amount of funds & contribution these schools are receiving really can't be compared to the budget art schools are operating on.
jmv: I don't know who they are or how good they are, but if these Art Center Trans grads are struggling up there, well, it's probably their fault - they should get the hell out of there. I'm guessing there's not much car design opportunities up there in the frozen tundras of Canada.
LiGHTWORKEr: I wish you would refrain from putting Art Center and AAU in the same sentence. They are not in the same league.
"...and you obviously have to be pretty damn good to get accepted to AAU"...Probably not, as they'll take anybody in from off the streets.
JMV: I agree with SE about getting the flip outa canada
SE: that was a HUGE error, I get all these prefixes messed up. I mean to say ACCD: you have to be pretty damn good to get into ACCD. Sorry about that mix up, i totally realize they're not in the same league.
Angel: I compared ACCD to Stanford as it was a comparison made in a recent letter i read considering this whole Coshalek-spell, president issue there at Art Center.
Originally posted by LiGHTWORKEr: Angel: I compared ACCD to Stanford as it was a comparison made in a recent letter i read considering this whole Coshalek-spell, president issue there at Art Center.
I'm aware of that too. However, it was referring to Stanford as a competitor art center wants to distinguish itself from as ID departments are becoming saturated internationally and more competitive.
Art Center will never be able to enjoy the kind of status quo that universities like Stanford is enjoying (endowments, federal/private grants, multi-disciplinary reputation, etc) unless it puts into some consideration of the proposal (and I'm saying this at the risk of being flamed by some readers) by the current administration under president Koshaleck. Whereas I'm hesitant about embracing the whole of the proposal, I can see what they are trying to accomplish.
