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quote: Originally posted by Alexei: quote: Originally posted by angeladay: quote: Originally posted by Alexei:
For me its on scale of ACCD or CCS, which ever gives me a better scholarship and funds i will go towards, i'm leaning more towards wanting to go to ACCD more over than CCS, but realistically CCS is more approachable for me.
What is CCS's tuition? Do they give out scholarship to students that are already enrolled as they do at ACCD? Additionally, I wonder how CCS is when it comes to entertainment industrial design as it should be something to think about when job prospect at OEM companies is out of reach. Although I haven't extensively researched CCS in this regard, I can't imagine it surpassing ACCD in the versatility of opportunities provided.
Tution is abit cheaper, around 12.500 per semester totaling 36,000 for a year including housing and life needs. From what i heard CCS is the main competitor to ACCD, both have their own benefits and cons.
Before I came to So Cal from Chicago last October, I never understood whey people were raving so much about So Cal. Now that I'm here, I understand. I may be making a blind statement about Detroit too but there really isn't another place like this when it comes to opportunities for artists--people, jobs, educational opportunities, etc. Not only have I met many inspiring artists & art students(visual and non) who have challenged and opened my eyes, but there also are ton of opportunities to learn and expand your abilities. In fact, I'm planning to take some concept art classes that are taught by top notch entertainment artists (and they are big names!) in Pasadena before enrolling in fall.
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quote: Originally posted by angeladay:
What is CCS's tuition? Do they give out scholarship to students that are already enrolled as they do at ACCD? Additionally, I wonder how CCS is when it comes to entertainment industrial design as it should be something to think about when job prospect at OEM companies is out of reach. Although I haven't extensively researched CCS in this regard, I can't imagine it surpassing ACCD in the versatility of opportunities provided.
CCS's ID program can't compete in any way on the entertainment design level with ACCD. I know there are a few big entertainment designers that have come out of CCS's trans program, but there are very few. If that's one's priority, ACCD is the only place I would go.
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Unfortunately it is WAAAAAY too long and obscure to figure out, unless one has a couple of hours to wade through it all.
I have found, over the years, that such documents are not trustworthy if they can't edit themselves in some realistic way.
At least provide a summary??
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quote: Originally posted by aflo:
Unfortunately it is WAAAAAY too long and obscure to figure out, unless one has a couple of hours to wade through it all.
I have found, over the years, that such documents are not trustworthy if they can't edit themselves in some realistic way.
At least provide a summary??
It gets pretty interesting from page 11 on. It is fairly in depth, but you only read the sections you're interested in, like graduate employment, curriculum etc...
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I skimmed through the whole article.
I liked the camparisons between the design schools.
Bryon Fitzpatrick was one of my teachers at CCS and I was able to talk to Imre Molnar a couple of times. Both of these men(who taught at Art Center) and other faculty members agreed that Art Center students were known to do more "Blue Sky" projects.
Also, I became friends with a student who had transfered from Art Center. When she came to CCS, she was ahead of everyone else and all the teachers loved her work. Ironically, these same teachers critized Art Center for doing projects that ignored industry constraints.
Eventually, I learned to ignore the opinions of my teachers.
What I found is that you really want to have a variety of projects in your portfolio. A few that show that you can follow the contraints or rules of the industry and a few that are more "Blue Sky".
This is because the best companies look for both. They want a designer that has a high degree of creativity, but also knows how to deal with real world constraints.
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Well you know...I wasnt really impressed with Art Center as such. I was impressed by the Alumni and the quality of talent coming out from Art Center. No matter how you look at it, some extremely talented artists and designers, regardless of their differences had one thing in common. They ALL came from ACCD.If that doesnt mean something then I dunno what does.
As far as "blue sky projects" go, let me just say this. This week the great sci-fi author Arthur. C.Clarke passed away. He proposed the idea of satellites during world war 2 when he was working as a radar operator.Of course he was made fun of by his peers but at the end of the day his idea became the foundation for communications,banking,television...the list goes on. He even predicted TV's in aircraft...50 years ago!!!
Of course he didnt go to Art Center but Im sure that if he was a designer he would!
And then of course is Syd Mead...also one of the worlds great futurist thinkers. He came from Art Center too. Have a look at his work and then tell me that "blue sky" aint worth it!!
Booyaah!!
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quote: Originally posted by crazycardude_1984:
Well you know...I wasnt really impressed with Art Center as such. I was impressed by the Alumni and the quality of talent coming out from Art Center. No matter how you look at it, some extremely talented artists and designers, regardless of their differences had one thing in common. They ALL came from ACCD.If that doesnt mean something then I dunno what does.
As far as "blue sky projects" go, let me just say this. This week the great sci-fi author Arthur. C.Clarke passed away. He proposed the idea of satellites during world war 2 when he was working as a radar operator.Of course he was made fun of by his peers but at the end of the day his idea became the foundation for communications,banking,television...the list goes on. He even predicted TV's in aircraft...50 years ago!!!
Of course he didnt go to Art Center but Im sure that if he was a designer he would!
And then of course is Syd Mead...also one of the worlds great futurist thinkers. He came from Art Center too. Have a look at his work and then tell me that "blue sky" aint worth it!!
Booyaah!!
This thread has been majorly hijacked, lol! I love what you stated here. Imagination has played vital part in all sorts of discoveries and inventions. During my graduate studies in Chicago, I was part of a class that featured guest lecturers from leading scientists of different disciplines. One question from my school prof particularly stuck in my mind. She asked speakers, "What comes first in scientific quest, imgination or discovery?" Even for something as science that many would consider runs like mechanical clock, all of discoveries and solutions have had their origin in people's vision, imagined prediction of how things work which later were put to test. I believe same goes with design. Go crazy, go "blue sky" as you can and test the limit and stretch existing paradigm. How would you know what works or not until you tried them out? Or should we always draw out from what we've always been doing?
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BTW, who's staring fall term at ACCD? lol!
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Well if my I20 doesnt come through in the next month or so then I might start in fall. My fate lies in the hands of the United States Postal Service!!!lol
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