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Yep i agree, what you want to do and what your company can afford to do are completely different things, no matter how much you may want to progress things for everyones benefit. It can be rewarding, it can be frustrating. Yes you must use your creativity to solve problems but everything can be so subjective to be painful. But hey we get paid to draw, i'd still do it after all these years and all the highs and lows.
 
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I have been MIA for a while but was just scanning the posts and saw this. Alot of you sound like very miserable people. I think the car design field is like anything else in life, you will have your good days and you will have your bad days. I can honestly say that 95% of the time I like what I do and who I do it for. However if you are getting into car design thinking you are going to be rich right off the bat, dont do it! This is a very brutal business and it isnt for everyone. Additionally only a small pwercentage of the design community actually get "rich" or very well to do. If you love design and love cars and are up for a challenge, then go for it. If not I would seriously look at the alternatives.


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I'm a transport design student, coming up to my last year in uni, finishing my degree this June. Don't get me wrong, I love cars and bikes, and I also love drawing, but I'm not too sure about doing it as a career anymore, it's fine as a hobby, but when it starts to become "work", I seems to lost all my enthusiasm. And I'm not too sure if I want to do this anymore, after reading what other people have posted in this topic, they seems to sum up my feeling, and all of you make alot of sense, so I don't know what I should do anymore, any suggestions?
 
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this is very depressing guys.
 
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but I'm not too sure about doing it as a career anymore, it's fine as a hobby, but when it starts to become "work", I seems to lost all my enthusiasm.


Its funny, I find it a nightmare doing design that isnt for work, maybe one thing a week, two tops. Unless youve got a cool brief and money hanging on it I find it so much easier just to sit in pub gardens and drink beer all day.
That said I love the work, and if I've not done anything good for a while I get stir crazy, so its swings and roundabouts really.

I mean, if there's another career you want to do more, fair enough, do that instead. But if you love drawing stuff then its the only job you could do that won't make you mental with boredome. For a while I worked as a public sector architectural technician training old people about these new-fangled computer things and surveying huge abandoned buildings for Alfa-welding money. Aside from poking round spooky old tunnels and payday and skiving it was rediculously boring. On the other hand however annoying design can be its still loads of fun, so I do that instead.
If you know what I mean then you should probably stick with it, if not perhaps entertain other career options.
 
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I guess the only way you can really know if it's as good as it sounds is to try it out for yourself. I just wish it was that bloody easy!!!
 
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well, it really depends on your personality.

for a very small group of people who are both talented at what they do, yet want nothing more from life than an acceptable salary to repeat a very limited set of tasks and live toward the bottom of the corporate org chart, it is paradise. god bless them.

This is so much BS it's hard to fathom .If someone has the passion and desire to pursue a career that they love, then more power to them .If you are that unhappy in your vocation then quit and take up another career, please .A designer's creativity and effectiveness is limited only by their brainpower and hard work .It certainly ain't rocket science .

but for most people who have (or slowly gain) a broader vision of life, the world, and everything, this limiting paradise wears thin after a few years!

it should also be noted that many young designers are attracted to the profession for reasons of personal creative freedom. does that describe you? but remember, once it becomes a salaried job (or a project for a client), it is no longer personal, it is rarely creative, and there is little freedom - the money is supposed to compensate for that hole in your heart, for the selling of your soul, and for the numbing of the brain.
 
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I guess the only way you can really know if it's as good as it sounds is to try it out for yourself. I just wish it was that bloody easy!!!



Yeah I feel that. Many of the people I meet through car design are very smart, very cynical and a bit geeky but beneath all the money talk they still love the same thing as you and me; if you give up you'll never get to do it, so whats the point of that?
 
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I'm a lucky guy. Been in the right place at the right time 90% of the time. Im coming up on 26 years in the car design world, at 4 companies, in 3 countries, and have sampled Asia in lots of business trips. Been a big fish in a small pond and a small fish in a big pond. Ive seen super talent and stupidity, yet..... I cant wait to go to work every day, because there's too much to do and so many unsolved problems out there. I've helped 3 companies renovate their product lines from crap to competitive.

We (automotive designers) have only scratched the surface of the creative potential still out there.

Sure, there are careers that have a larger impact on humanity, and careers that pay better, but our small fraternity of global car designers can go pretty much anywhere they want to in the world, can choose from a huge variety of corporate personalities, a huge variety of cultural and geographic locals.

If your bosses like your work, judgement and leadership skills, you can reach the highest levels of design management, and you can have a great influence on decisions. If your ego doesn't get in the way of your learning, you can use your experience to stike out on your own and be the master of your destiny.

This may sound overly optimistic, but ive had a couple bumps in the road, yet when I interview a new grad out of school and see the work and enthusiasm of a ready-to-show-the-world young talent, I marvel at the potential that person can achieve in 10 years.

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well...that was inspiring....but i have a question.

What kind of work does freelance designers do? and how does it compare to being hired by a car company?
 
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