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You are not neccesarily talking about British Designers here, you are talking about the Mehcanical Engineers who are responsible for producing reliable and effiecient engines, you may want to go and talk to them. Also....there is no garauntee of all the workers being british as Britain has a very diverse culture.


Hey guy dont try to talk this chump out of gross generalisations; this kind of polarised, uninformed perspective as shown by blamage is evident in the mentally deficient and poorly educated members of many cultures.

He missed all the threads (including several current ones) where British designers comment unfavourably on the outputs of Brit stalwarts Landrover and Aston Martin, compared to the exciting work from the French and Far Eastern OEMs. And the one where Ian Callum was discussed as a "one trick pony." And the one about the excruciatingly ironic 'Gorgeous' advert for the unhappy new Jaguar XK.
Why make racist assertions about designers from a particular country? Its all about the work not the jerk; if its quality who cares where theyre from?

Funny thing is he uses distictively British terms in his speech; "put a bloody sock in it what what!" Sounds like a bitter Limey loser.

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Damn it, as much as I hate to admit it Doby is right! Smile

what happened to your shark tail? I didnt see the no doubt 'chortlesome' remark
 
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You are not neccesarily talking about British Designers here, you are talking about the Mehcanical Engineers who are responsible for producing reliable and effiecient engines, you may want to go and talk to them. Also....there is no garauntee of all the workers being british as Britain has a very diverse culture.


Hmmmm!

The british engineers are quite good too though!

So many good british engineers have gone elsewhere to find their fortune!

People keep on referring to the British car industry.... in actual fact it was that the buying over of smaller companies for example Jaguar, Rover, Austin etc were merged into a national state run company called British Leyland! This was forced by the government! When BL was disbanded the companies fell appart!

BL was the fault of the governments fault! Hmm sounds familiar, Labour government being the downfall of the uk car industry, Late 70s BL and 05' MG/Rover Tony's government!

The Rootes group was bought over by a French company, Peugeot Talbot or latterly PSA.

This shows that the designers and engineers are not at fault it shows the outside influences are the problem for the british car industry!

Its hardly a great situation that Ford or GM are in at the moment either! Maybe in 10 years time there maybe a very smalll US car industry after the big two go under!

Ford were trying to sell off Aston Martin and Jaguar recently to recoup some of their losses?
 
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what happened to your shark tail? I didnt see the no doubt 'chortlesome' remark


Haha? I dont get it.
 
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You are not neccesarily talking about British Designers here, you are talking about the Mehcanical Engineers who are responsible for producing reliable and effiecient engines, you may want to go and talk to them. Also....there is no garauntee of all the workers being british as Britain has a very diverse culture.


Hey guy dont try to talk this chump out of gross generalisations;


My study of Critical Thinking isnt working for me then...
 
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Its not your fault. He's a little bald cancer kid hunched over his hospital keyboard in St Ormands Street, London, England. Literally thinking outside the box of his room puts pressure on the tumour.
 
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I find this thread mildly amusing... Roll Eyes


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I find this thread mildly amusing... Roll Eyes


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It may not be possible to build a completely british car because of money. A british car would have to compete with cars made in an asian country where the workers are paid a fraction of a british wage, so nobody would want to invest in a new car factory that cant compete. Ford may have to sell jaguar, so that may be an opportunity for british investors to buy the company and have a go at it with a brand that has a chance of survival. They would acquire the rights to use the name"Daimler" , they could use this to blackmail daimler chrysler. Buy the name from us or we will put your name on a seperate line of cars which will be the worst piece of crap we can build.
 
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I freaking love the Brits! With certain opined and vocal individuals such as Jeremy Clarkson as their self-appointed ambassadors, I should by all rights harbor a distaste for them, but I can't help it. Perhaps it's that stern refusal to give up their unique piece of the automotive spectrum, even after all hope is lost. As most existing automotive brands increasingly hug the middle ground like so many politicians, the British character has become a valuable commodity amidst a sea of homogeneity.

I once read an article somewhere that seemed to put it quite succinctly, "British journalists have no problem telling everyone else how to produce cars, asserting that the rest of the world should make greater efforts to emulate British car companies--of which, due to their charming incompetence, there are none." Big Grin

Seriously though, you have to realize who it is you're stereotyping before you do it. British journalists and their insufferable idealism for a non-existant automotive business aside, the rest of the goings-on are largely a group effort--which is to say an international one. British designers may very well be educated in other parts of the world and even if not, still wind up working for any number of intentional companies lacking the union jack on their headquarters. I'm quite sure that the studios in Britain, while owned by outside parent corporations now, employ people of European, American, and Asian descent. And as previously mentioned, engineers share a similar international bent. (A bit hard to forgive if you've ever driven a classic car with Lucas Electrics though...)

The world just wouldn't feel right without the British contribution to the automobile. Brits are supposed to love British cars in a romantic sort of way. That's just the way it should be.


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