this is a better pic. Ferrari Daytona

Its good that youre adding scenery as opposed to the usual white emptyness, but often the reason this is included in a sketch is to reflect it in the body panels and so describe their surfaces.

Hey there, here is the rendering that I did of the rear and side of my Daytona. I'd like to hear some feed back on this and the previous one that I posted if you have any. Thanks!

Daytona:
[img=http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3900/daytonarearandsidehr9.th.jpg]

here is a 2d sketch i did ...daytona side 2d...

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the colors are good but now its time for the negitives im not sure about your scribble scketching technique you need to try long light sweeping stokes with a pencil eventually getting darker...loose to tight, dark to bright... your first renderings nose is confusing it looks like a ramp, no face. the rear wheel sticks out to much. and the front wheel is at a weird angle it would look like this in a different angle //----\\ (your rear one too) and the bottom of tire should be hardly seen the body would be hiding it. I think the problem with the ass end of your car is that your car got bigger towards the end. the passenger compartment is gynormus making the car look like this ferraris are tear dropped shaped (see the roof line) yours is too angular. the paint is good if its flat blue but you need some white highlights, and a light sorce. .
your second pic...I like that you used the oval rear the same as the 67-78 daytona. negitives... the lights look crosseyed. the roof is too flat, no mirrors, your wheels are 2d, your right side is higher that the left and same problem with paint. learn from your mistyakes and become a better artist.

I did this the other day, not having seen this thread tho and I did not exactly know why,...
Daytona reborn drawing...;

Ian Davis:

I appreciate you getting back to me so soon. It is great to have some feedback. SOrry for the choppy response, I had alot of information but little time.

For the first picture:
-I agree with your comments about the highlights, and the back wheel. Could you possibly give me some tips to make these more effective though? (Note: I already had a light source, but had no highlights.)
-I don't think that you realized that the front wheel was turning.
-I don't understand your comment about the tire being hidden by the body, maybe you could clarify that. I would think that if the tires were thicker than cardboard you could see it. (Maybe I am wrong)
Some things which you stated as facts and rules were untrue:
-The F40, the '84 GTO, 166MM, and various other Ferrai cars are not very teardrop shaped yet some of which are a selection of the most legendary Feraris ever. And even if they weren't, why couldn't I change it? I didn't make it look like that by accident. Some things can change.
-Another thing is the light bright line thing. The "scribble technique" is something I have been trying out lately. I am capable of other techniques and therefore know for a fact that I don't need to do it a different way.

For the second picture:
-I'm glad you noticed the oval, that was part of my inspiration for the design.
The lights are supposed to look like that though, I wanted to change the standard rear fascia a bit.
-Also I put no mirrors there on purose so I could get the lines down. I know that is a bit odd but if it bothers you pretend there are cameras fitted. Your pic didn't have mirrors either lol.
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hopefully I will get a chance to work on it some more, but I am real busy now with my putting up my website....it's lotsa work.

Ian Davis' pic:
Great job!

Your sketch really evokes the original Daytona. It shows in the headlights, side definition lines and the shape of the back. Those definition lines are prtty awesome.

I think that you could have been a bit more creative with it though. It seems like your picture could just as easily be an old Daytona as opposed to a new one. This is a common and easy mistake in re-creating a car. Some advice I have for this is: to think, while you are drawing, that you want to achieve the same impact of the original car with this one. An example: If the the headlights were innovative then, they may not be now. Make them innovative in the present world just like the original designers did (for there time) while keeping the Daytona character.

I really like the overall shape of you car. It is quite unique in todays marketplace and is very Daytona-ish.

I believe there are some proportion issues with your car. You may have done these on purpose:
the hood is too tall for the driver to see over, and the window/ cockpit to small. The wheels are ovals and are a bit large, and the side skirts and front bumper are touching the ground.

Your design definatley has the potential to be atleast close to "winning" this sketchgroup thing. You have the lines down aswell as the details, but try to stray from the original more and fix the proportion issues. I would really like to see a coloured/rendered version of your design. I really like it. Keep it up.

MRDETROITMETAL's picture:

Your technique is very unique, and in a good way. This is because I can instantly recognize a picture of yours without reading anything.

I am confused as I can't figure out if you knew this was to be a Daytona before you designed it, or just thought it resembled one after finishing it and reading this post. This will affect my comments on your piece, so I will wait for your reply before I tell you what I think. (I do like it though, don't worry).

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Originally posted by er Designs:
Your technique is very unique, and in a good way. This is because I can instantly recognize a picture of yours without reading anything.

I disagree. His sketches beeing unique isn't a good thing. The reason you can recognize them is that they always seem like they're distorted (streched towards the back). I have noticed that in most of your sketches MRDETROITMETAL, so maybe you'd want to work on that.

for er paint clicky! you cant strech it out in paint so its still mini. see how the tire extends under the car. all the new ferraris are tear dropped .